On week 4 @ 100 EOD then yes you should see some dramatic vasc, hardness, and strength. If you have used tren many times before then I would say to switch it up. I love stanzolols for vasc hard and strength. If you've hit a peak somewhere then try throwing in some halo, stanzolol. Halo is VERY OVERLOOKED (strength). Some people feel dramatic (night sweats, pumps, etc.) From day 2 of the tren w ace ester. I'm sure you knew this I was just throwing in my two cents. Everyone's body reacts differently. Train hard buddy!Tren ace is what I'm taking and honestly didn't see much and it was 100mg eod I'm on week 4 now and my muscles are very hard but not dramatic strength gains. Idk probably just a bad batch as I've had a good past with these guys.